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Post by Ana on Oct 12, 2005 20:14:56 GMT -5
what is your opinion and why?
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Post by Narcissa on Dec 19, 2005 22:18:22 GMT -5
All evidence points to evolution, but intelligent design advocates say that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There are huge gaps in the fossil record, but we're talking about a period of trillions of years. We've been looking for stuff for under two hundred. There's gonna be a few gaps.
Seriously though. I hate it when people bring religion into things. Religion has always been such a huge issue. People rebelled against the concept that the Earth traveled around the sun, rather than the other way around. I think that creationists and intelligent design believers can rail all they want. It's not gonna change the fact that evolution happened. It's happening NOW. Bacteria that we've killed for years have become resistant to drugs we use to treat them. Are creationists going to deny avain flu outbreaks?
And I have to wonder if creationists and intelligent design believers are clinging to a supernatural explaination because they don't want to think that there might be a chance that some deity isn't omnipotent and has things on Earth well in hand. Are creationism and intelligent design just a way to bring the mental equivelant of a security blanket into the search for the origins of humans and life on earth? Or do people simply not want to believe that they are descended from the same anscestors as fish and monkeys?
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Post by Narcissa on Dec 20, 2005 15:42:08 GMT -5
...which is not to say i dont think gods of any kind exist, because they do. I believe in some. I just think that humans came before gods did. Humans make gods, not the other way around.
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Post by Ana on Dec 21, 2005 12:20:20 GMT -5
wow, good debate dude! i personall believe in evolution. but you know, your argument kinda reminds me of celtic mythology(random i know) where the gods exist only if people believe in them.
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Post by Narcissa on Dec 21, 2005 14:57:25 GMT -5
...discworld again.....but i think it makes so much *sense* how he explains it!
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Post by Ana on Dec 23, 2005 19:08:21 GMT -5
hah lol yeah. but let's not get off topic.
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Post by Arianhrod on Mar 7, 2006 19:35:08 GMT -5
I see gods merely as a focus of belief and hope or as an excuse for failure. The belief helps people get through hard times, but they are not an actual working force upon the world.
Since I feel this way, I do not think intelligent design is possible. The world evolved through a series of chanced events and cell memory. As different parts of bodies became needed or useless, they appeared or dissapeared. ( btw, I know I'm referencing Pratchett and Pullman in this)
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Post by Narcissa on Mar 23, 2006 23:10:19 GMT -5
I do think, however, that if people push for creationism then they should do all forms of creationism, because otherwise it's just advocating one religion. If the universe was created by Yaweh in seven days then it could just as easily have been created by Saturn or a turtle god.
i think intelligent design and creationism both need to find some evidence, ANY evidence that supports their claims. intelligent design might have a case, but there is absolute ZERO in the fossil record and the chemical makeup of the earth to suggest that creationism did indeed happen as creationists say.
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